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Tdave
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Is the Tesla Roadster allowed for Solo II racing? If so, what class would it be in?
I can't find the Tesla mentioned anywhere in the 2009 car classifications or in a forum search, which surprises me.
I'm expecting my Roadster Sport end of August or early September, so I'll miss this season, but may be interested in next season. I haven't done any Solo II since 15 years ago with my 3rd gen RX-7. My new car gets me interested again.
Thanks,
David
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EricJones
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you can probably run it in AM or if your club has a regional class
for open street prepared cars it may fit there.
while you're waiting to take delivery, send email to seb@scca.com
and ask them to classify the car.
good luck.
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Washburn
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I'm not surprised....it just coming out and it's likely to be a very low volume. Like Eric suggested, send a letter now asking for it to be classed.
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Tdave
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Email sent. Thanks.
Yes, volume is low. Almost 400 delivered so far over the past 7 months, with an ongoing run of about 1400 cars per year. They're delivering about 110 cars every month now. My car is in the high 700's and I'm expecting it late August.
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Lynn
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In order to be classed in Stock or Street Prepared, at least 1000 cars must
be produced in a 12 month period. Given Tdave's numbers, it looks like
Tesla will accomplish this before the end of the year. I suggest that you
keep following up on your letter to the SEB.
Many regions will allow a car that is not yet classed to run in ASP. Ask your
local region about that. If not there is always AM as mentioned earlier.
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GDGR
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Lynn wrote:
| In order to be classed in Stock or Street Prepared, at least 1000 cars must
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Common misconception, but this is just not true.
The only thing that the 1000-cars-in-12-months pertains to is if you want to use a catch-all classification. Low-volume cars can be explicitly listed. Just ask the SEB to do so.
"Car models not specifically listed in any Stock Category class must have been produced, and must meet the above requirements and been sold through normal U.S. dealerships, in quantities of at least 1,000 in a 12- month period in order to be eligible for the Stock Category."
I quoted the paragraph from the stock rules, but the same provision exists for SP and P too.
Edited by GDGR on May.01.2009 at 7:15pm
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Tdave
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Thanks for the comments. I gave up trying to figure out which category the Tesla would likely fall into. Some of the categories talk about requirements of engine displacement. Um, displacement? That just made me smile, then be confused.
So, any speculation about what category it would likely end up in? Or at least what's the short list of contenders? And how competitive would it be in those categories? And might it dominate that class to the exclusion of other cars in that class? These are the things I'm wondering about. The whole electric car issue may be a bit of a problem for Solo II. Where do you put them in order to make that class meaningful, and a fair competition for all cars involved, driver skill notwithstanding?
I remember when I first started competing in my 3rd gen RX-7 in 1993 there was a bit of controversy about what category it belonged in. It ended up in AS, and dominated that class to an extent that no other car could be competitive in AS. The Corvette guys didn't want it in SS and potentially lose to it.
Edited by Tdave on May.01.2009 at 8:54pm
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russtduck
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Displacement = winds in motor x battery watts
Thats a possible way to place it.
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Tdave
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I received a reply to my email:
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Your comments have been logged 09-273 for Tesla Classing and sent to the SEB. They will discuss this topic and once they have made a decision
they will post it in a future FasTrack news.
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How and where do I look this up and track it? I'm new again to SCCA.
Edited by Tdave on May.06.2009 at 11:40am
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Washburn
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Pretty much what it says above. The SAC will discuss it during their monthly conference call, and the results will be posted in the next Fasttrack following a decision. There is no tracking.
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Tdave wrote:
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So, any speculation about what category it would likely end up in? Or at least what's the short list of contenders? And how competitive would it be in those categories? And might it dominate that class to the exclusion of other cars in that class? These are the things I'm wondering about. |
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Me too. The problem is we don't have a good frame of reference since the various committee members have little to no experience in electric cars. The specs say 276 ft lbs torque, 16x6 inch wheels front, 17x7.5 in the rear holding up 2723 lbs. With a more conventional gas motor those might be SS or AS numbers. However, it's difficult to compare when the Tesla has one gear and instant torque at 1 rpm. Does that make it better or worse than say, a Pontiac GXP on a autocross course? The Tesla's 0-60 time in under 4 seconds while the GXP is closer to 5.5 so until we can drive one I'm guessing that it gets classed fairly conservatively.
Jeff
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Tdave
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In the FasTrack that was just published...
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Stock: The following new listings, effective immediately upon publication, are added to Appendix A:
Audi R8 4.2L (’08-’09): SS (ref. 09-207)
Tesla Roadster (all) (’08-’09): SS (ref. 09-273)
MINI John Cooper Works Clubman (’09): BS
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Cool! The Tesla Roadster is in SS, all models.
Edited by Tdave on June.24.2009 at 11:28am
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FocusedJ
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I'm anxious to see how it does on the track. Been thinking about getting a Tesla sedan. Keep us updated!
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